
gg_ny
04-03 02:32 PM
Hi Ragz4u,
This is THE time to stop answering negative mails,and convincing chronic doubters. It definitely distracts. Maybe until the bills gets to voting on the Senate floor, we should all unilaterally stop spilling out our doubts and apprehensions on to the forum. Any serious chronic and obsessive doubters should write a PM to Ragz4u or any other internal contacts.
Now, coming to more useful part: Many of the universities and research institutions employ chinese and Indian postdocs and researchers on H1. Many of them sponsor GCs via EB2 and rarely EB1. Although many members here in the forum are under EB3 (isn't it?), the retrogression affects both EB2 AND EB3. The catch is, these institutions come under (many of them if not most) a category called non-profit, no cap etc. Looks like they cannot, as institutions, lobby against retrogression. I personally tried to do this in my institution but I was turned away; also my institution is very small unlike for example: University of California schools, or University of Texas schools. In all these institutions, the affected researchers work for individual Nobel laureates, accomplished professors (both chinese and Indian origin AND native born Americans) who can support the efforts. That requires a nodal point for information exchange. One side, IV can do this and on the other end, there are somethings called: postdoctoral fellow associations in many universities.
They are cataloged at: http://www.nationalpostdoc.org/
It will make more sense for an organization like IV trying to convince NPA to raise this issue than individuals like me. I have been in science for 14 years and I say from my experience.
There are two renowned science journals that talk about career issues.
The journal Science www.sciencemag.org has a portal called NextWave that deals with career issues of scientists. They frequently write about many visa issues but they need to be dealing with a resource to write about retrogression etc.
http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/
Another equally good portal belongs to Nature journal:
http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/magazine/index.html
Eveybody talks about retaining best talents back in US but there is no support heard from academic communites on this. So instead of answering
chronic doubters, IV should try to reach out to these organizations.
This is THE time to stop answering negative mails,and convincing chronic doubters. It definitely distracts. Maybe until the bills gets to voting on the Senate floor, we should all unilaterally stop spilling out our doubts and apprehensions on to the forum. Any serious chronic and obsessive doubters should write a PM to Ragz4u or any other internal contacts.
Now, coming to more useful part: Many of the universities and research institutions employ chinese and Indian postdocs and researchers on H1. Many of them sponsor GCs via EB2 and rarely EB1. Although many members here in the forum are under EB3 (isn't it?), the retrogression affects both EB2 AND EB3. The catch is, these institutions come under (many of them if not most) a category called non-profit, no cap etc. Looks like they cannot, as institutions, lobby against retrogression. I personally tried to do this in my institution but I was turned away; also my institution is very small unlike for example: University of California schools, or University of Texas schools. In all these institutions, the affected researchers work for individual Nobel laureates, accomplished professors (both chinese and Indian origin AND native born Americans) who can support the efforts. That requires a nodal point for information exchange. One side, IV can do this and on the other end, there are somethings called: postdoctoral fellow associations in many universities.
They are cataloged at: http://www.nationalpostdoc.org/
It will make more sense for an organization like IV trying to convince NPA to raise this issue than individuals like me. I have been in science for 14 years and I say from my experience.
There are two renowned science journals that talk about career issues.
The journal Science www.sciencemag.org has a portal called NextWave that deals with career issues of scientists. They frequently write about many visa issues but they need to be dealing with a resource to write about retrogression etc.
http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/
Another equally good portal belongs to Nature journal:
http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/magazine/index.html
Eveybody talks about retaining best talents back in US but there is no support heard from academic communites on this. So instead of answering
chronic doubters, IV should try to reach out to these organizations.
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tikka
07-06 12:46 PM
maybe you can help with other action items?
you have motivated many folks and we could use help on the contribution fund, media drive, diggs etc
Thank you
Is there any Specific date, I mean when AILF is filing the case...USCIS is announced they are gonna reject the applications..but did they rejected any single application?? We will come to know after 4 or 5 weeks abt our applications (As per USCIS rep)....I think there must be some time limit to file a case...and we dont have a base to file a case until they reject it.
Finally they dont reject application nor they will accept it...
Guys send flowers with all your comments on JULY 10TH...we may get media and political atten...
this is just my 2 cents.
Thanks,
Chandra.
you have motivated many folks and we could use help on the contribution fund, media drive, diggs etc
Thank you
Is there any Specific date, I mean when AILF is filing the case...USCIS is announced they are gonna reject the applications..but did they rejected any single application?? We will come to know after 4 or 5 weeks abt our applications (As per USCIS rep)....I think there must be some time limit to file a case...and we dont have a base to file a case until they reject it.
Finally they dont reject application nor they will accept it...
Guys send flowers with all your comments on JULY 10TH...we may get media and political atten...
this is just my 2 cents.
Thanks,
Chandra.

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08-23 02:13 PM
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Jaime
09-22 06:46 PM
Yeah.. what next? shower caps? then groceries? C'mon man. Overdose of anything can be detrimental.
Just conveying a message is not sufficent. It should be the RIGHT message in a proper way. Flowers was good, because it was the first time something like that happened and it was unique.
No, we are not going to abuse this and we won't be sending stuff over and over. But stoppers have a very Specific significance: to educate and differentiate between legal and illegal. A stopper says "Stop the reverse brain drain"...A stopper would pique people's interest becase we are typically lumped in with illegals, and a stopper does not exemplify what illegals are. Illegal immigration's message is: "legalize us and help new guest workers come", our stopper says "We are already legal and are already leaving, fix this before we all leave"
Just conveying a message is not sufficent. It should be the RIGHT message in a proper way. Flowers was good, because it was the first time something like that happened and it was unique.
No, we are not going to abuse this and we won't be sending stuff over and over. But stoppers have a very Specific significance: to educate and differentiate between legal and illegal. A stopper says "Stop the reverse brain drain"...A stopper would pique people's interest becase we are typically lumped in with illegals, and a stopper does not exemplify what illegals are. Illegal immigration's message is: "legalize us and help new guest workers come", our stopper says "We are already legal and are already leaving, fix this before we all leave"
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john2255
07-20 02:43 PM
I am sorry to start a new thread but I feel the following thread is not getting the importance it should get. Everyone please dont miss the following thread. Its a big defeat during our celebrations.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10751
Major loss to us Cornyn amendment rejected
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10751
Major loss to us Cornyn amendment rejected
GCNirvana007
08-23 02:04 PM
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funny
09-25 03:58 PM
Folks,
Back in those exciting/nail biting days of July 2007 ( I think all, who filed their 485, would remember that month throughout life) . There were couple of thread that got started to collect information on how to be our own BOSS and STOP being a slave of your Employer.
I think it would be a good idea to start a thread (pls forgive me if you think its not such a good idea after all to stat a new thred) and collect some fresh/new/interesting information from people who did try to live thier dream of be their own BOSS. I think it will help other people as well to start thinking about the important steps in the life given the fact the GC is still little too far.
Please post any information that is relevent to the topic of starting your own company while the 485 is still pending.
Start the company on Primary's Name?
Start the company on Spouse name?
W-2 with the Vendor?
Independent Consulting?
Back in those exciting/nail biting days of July 2007 ( I think all, who filed their 485, would remember that month throughout life) . There were couple of thread that got started to collect information on how to be our own BOSS and STOP being a slave of your Employer.
I think it would be a good idea to start a thread (pls forgive me if you think its not such a good idea after all to stat a new thred) and collect some fresh/new/interesting information from people who did try to live thier dream of be their own BOSS. I think it will help other people as well to start thinking about the important steps in the life given the fact the GC is still little too far.
Please post any information that is relevent to the topic of starting your own company while the 485 is still pending.
Start the company on Primary's Name?
Start the company on Spouse name?
W-2 with the Vendor?
Independent Consulting?
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JunRN
08-23 03:15 AM
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Maverick1
11-09 10:46 AM
and we may win any battles like retrogression or anything except this one - chances are that we may never win :D:D
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And that is one war I love to loose :):).............................................. ....... .....................by not fighting in the first place :):)
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07-20 01:23 PM
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gunabcd
06-28 03:57 PM
This is not good. My PERM labor is stuck in Atlanta, I was hoping to apply I-140 pp since my 6th year H1 is expiring Dec, 07. If I can get my I-140 approved then I'll have to leave.
1. If your labor was filed in Nov 06 or earlier then you can file for 7th year extension (based on rule that labor pending for more than 365 days)
2. I'm not 100% sure but i think when your labor is approved if PDs are current, you can file i-140, 485, EAD together and get EAD by before your visa expires and you would be fine.
3. Labor substitution will not be allowed after July 17th, and there are a lot approved labors whose beneficiaries have left the company. Employers are willing to use these labors for whatever they get (excuse me!). If you really want to stay in US, find an approved labor with PD older than Nov 06 and then file I140/485/EAD, if you don't get EAD by Dec 07 then file 7th year ext based on the GC pending more than 365 days. Hurry up for labor..
1. If your labor was filed in Nov 06 or earlier then you can file for 7th year extension (based on rule that labor pending for more than 365 days)
2. I'm not 100% sure but i think when your labor is approved if PDs are current, you can file i-140, 485, EAD together and get EAD by before your visa expires and you would be fine.
3. Labor substitution will not be allowed after July 17th, and there are a lot approved labors whose beneficiaries have left the company. Employers are willing to use these labors for whatever they get (excuse me!). If you really want to stay in US, find an approved labor with PD older than Nov 06 and then file I140/485/EAD, if you don't get EAD by Dec 07 then file 7th year ext based on the GC pending more than 365 days. Hurry up for labor..
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nb_des
06-18 02:41 PM
She will continue on H4 status until she uses EAD (by filing I-9 with an employer when she starts working). At that point, her H4 is automatically invalid and she is then on EAD. Until then she can be on H4. Same rule applies to H1.
Thanks this is useful information. Also I am planning to continue in my H1 status as per company policy they allow EAD/AP only for spouse and not the employee. In future, will I be able to file EAD/AP for myself separately or does this need to be done with 485 filing? In future if I decide to file EAD/AP can I do this myself or would I need my employer for this?
Thanks this is useful information. Also I am planning to continue in my H1 status as per company policy they allow EAD/AP only for spouse and not the employee. In future, will I be able to file EAD/AP for myself separately or does this need to be done with 485 filing? In future if I decide to file EAD/AP can I do this myself or would I need my employer for this?
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indianindian2006
09-05 01:50 PM
Recently I returned after a one month trip to India. At DC airport the CBP secondary inspection officer grilled us rough. First he called my wife and asked why did we leave US. She told that since my parents are old and not in good health we visited them. Then he started asking for documents proving it. And told us that without documents he won't let us enter. He went on to say that AP is only on humanitarian basis and unless CBP officer is satisfied with proof they cannot allow AP holder to enter. Finally after convincing him for another 30 min he let us in.
This was a really shocking experience. Are employment based GC's AP supposed to be treated like humanitarian AP? or was the CBP officer over reacting? Gurus please throw some light.
Sorry to hear your experiance,maybe you came across the wrong person,my wife traveled 3 times on AP recently as she had a family emergency and had a good experiance all the 3 times.Shows once again how important it is to get the GC so that this intimidation can end.
This was a really shocking experience. Are employment based GC's AP supposed to be treated like humanitarian AP? or was the CBP officer over reacting? Gurus please throw some light.
Sorry to hear your experiance,maybe you came across the wrong person,my wife traveled 3 times on AP recently as she had a family emergency and had a good experiance all the 3 times.Shows once again how important it is to get the GC so that this intimidation can end.
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zen
04-06 04:37 PM
what you say above is true. but the fact is that we are what we are ..and we are at cross roads ..and that is where we are.
the main question is how do we increase membership .. the answer to that has to be in meaningful and visible campaigns.
forcing people to pay money when their jobs are at risk will not increase membership.
the main question is how do we increase membership .. the answer to that has to be in meaningful and visible campaigns.
forcing people to pay money when their jobs are at risk will not increase membership.
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enthu999
04-14 07:03 PM
Sorry to hear this. Regarding medical insurance, your company has to offer you COBRA..you will end up paying almost twice the premium that you have been paying so far, but it would still be better than you footing the delivery charges (10k - 25K). Continue CORBA atleast till the deliver and post-partum - for as long as possible..
Terminating you in your ninth month pregnancy is probably against the law, i think if you can prove it, you might be able to sue your employer, check your local state laws..
Good luck..!
Hi
When adding my wife to my medical coverage provided by my employer, my wife was pregnent, I did a bit of reading up, most of the group insurance policies offered by employers does not consider pregnancy as pre-exisitng condition. That is the major benefit of group insurance policies. If your husband is working in the west, Kaiser
is the way to go!
As mentioned in the above post, employer should offer CORBA, which can be your backup.
Always remember that tough times will always pass!! just hang in there!
All the best!
Terminating you in your ninth month pregnancy is probably against the law, i think if you can prove it, you might be able to sue your employer, check your local state laws..
Good luck..!
Hi
When adding my wife to my medical coverage provided by my employer, my wife was pregnent, I did a bit of reading up, most of the group insurance policies offered by employers does not consider pregnancy as pre-exisitng condition. That is the major benefit of group insurance policies. If your husband is working in the west, Kaiser
is the way to go!
As mentioned in the above post, employer should offer CORBA, which can be your backup.
Always remember that tough times will always pass!! just hang in there!
All the best!
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aadimanav
08-19 04:53 PM
Looks like there is not much focus on this thread now, we should really Bump this Thread up so as to get Maximun Visability on the home page.
This is our last chance to get the new bill approved so i would suggest to go full steam.
Who did you send the letter/petition? The reason I am asking so that I can update the list on page 1.
This is our last chance to get the new bill approved so i would suggest to go full steam.
Who did you send the letter/petition? The reason I am asking so that I can update the list on page 1.
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krishmunn
04-20 02:24 PM
My advice to most people who do not perfectly fit into eb2 is to do the eb3 petition first (which is guaranteed to be approved). Get your place in line for the greencard.
If it is taking too long then you can try an eb2 later; if it gets approved then you will get the old priority date. If it doesn't; well you can say you tried but you didn't lost your place in line for the greencard because you still have the old eb3 in place.
However, if your cases is not clear for eb2 and you try this first and it gets denied then you will lose valuable time in line for the greencard because you have to start from the beginning.
Since, last august DOL has become weird with even approving eb3 labors. Generally, attornies will put language in the eta 9089 that they will accept three years of experience for each year of bachelors degree missing (this is in line with education evaluators and uscis).
However, this isn't the same criteria DOL uses. They will state that if a person doesn't have a degree then you are willing to accept 12 years of experience which is excessive and they deny the labor (before they were giving hard time to eb2 but not it is eb3 that they are after). So now we have an issue that DOL criteria is different then uscis critera. You use dol criteria, labor gets approved but 140 gets denied. Use uscis criteria and labor gets denied. Now, everyone has to adjust and file eb3 labors as skilled workers and only require two years of experience (it's getting more and more messy)
The 3 year experience = 1 year education towards degree is used for H1 NOT for GC. It has never been for GC.
For EB3 GC, there is a classification for skilled workers which do not require a degree.
If it is taking too long then you can try an eb2 later; if it gets approved then you will get the old priority date. If it doesn't; well you can say you tried but you didn't lost your place in line for the greencard because you still have the old eb3 in place.
However, if your cases is not clear for eb2 and you try this first and it gets denied then you will lose valuable time in line for the greencard because you have to start from the beginning.
Since, last august DOL has become weird with even approving eb3 labors. Generally, attornies will put language in the eta 9089 that they will accept three years of experience for each year of bachelors degree missing (this is in line with education evaluators and uscis).
However, this isn't the same criteria DOL uses. They will state that if a person doesn't have a degree then you are willing to accept 12 years of experience which is excessive and they deny the labor (before they were giving hard time to eb2 but not it is eb3 that they are after). So now we have an issue that DOL criteria is different then uscis critera. You use dol criteria, labor gets approved but 140 gets denied. Use uscis criteria and labor gets denied. Now, everyone has to adjust and file eb3 labors as skilled workers and only require two years of experience (it's getting more and more messy)
The 3 year experience = 1 year education towards degree is used for H1 NOT for GC. It has never been for GC.
For EB3 GC, there is a classification for skilled workers which do not require a degree.
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anilsal
06-23 01:20 PM
USCIS is trying to help the filers to get 2 year EADs.
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cagedcactus
11-08 07:30 AM
hey friends,
I saw that Logiclife mentioned that the head will be from michigan. I am from michigan and a lot of my buddies also visit this site regularly. Let us know if we can make a difference. Please let us know what can we do to help our cause here. I am ready to drive, meet, talk to any one I can to push things here. I dont know how much of an impact that would be, but even a little can help.
thanks
Please pm me with any suggestions or ideas.
I saw that Logiclife mentioned that the head will be from michigan. I am from michigan and a lot of my buddies also visit this site regularly. Let us know if we can make a difference. Please let us know what can we do to help our cause here. I am ready to drive, meet, talk to any one I can to push things here. I dont know how much of an impact that would be, but even a little can help.
thanks
Please pm me with any suggestions or ideas.
anadimisra
09-15 03:01 PM
There is no big secret, except little bit of planning and starting something.
I came here in 1997(at 22), but was in school for 2 years, started working in 1999. As soon as I started, I put money in 401k. I married early in 2000(I was only 25 then), my wife already did her M.S by then, she started working in 2000 even before our marriage. I made her put into her 401k(max out most of the time), we also put into esop. Together we have 300k in investment assests in 401k. Then I started a brokerage account and put 1500 every month, that accumualted to 150k now.
I brought house early, as soon as I am out of PT, with in first year of H-1, it didn't appreciate much but I still have an equity of 200k in primary house(I took 15 year mortgage) and I brought another house, that I rent out which as an equity of 50k. I have some cash. I brought couple of plots in india and also constructing an house in my native town in India.
But i want to do something else, I am happy with my life, for last two years, I got into golf, tennis and exercise, trying to be physically fit. I used to worry about GC before, not any more, whatever happens will happen.
Except that I am not progressing ahead in my carreer, I want to do MBA and get into something else. Right now most of my money goes to day care for two of my kids around 24,000.
More than money, you have to develop right habits, be healthy and have positive attitude.
In my case, Secrets of my lifestyle are
1. Getting started early, buying an house at 26. STarting 401k early.
2. Marrying a girl, who is already working.
3. Maxing my 401k and esop plan.
Marrying a girl , who is already working??????????????
If we are at this level of compromise, marry a millionaire's only daughter or a multi-millionaire's daughter (any number of kids) ;-) I'm sure you will find many.
or mary a citizen.
I came here in 1997(at 22), but was in school for 2 years, started working in 1999. As soon as I started, I put money in 401k. I married early in 2000(I was only 25 then), my wife already did her M.S by then, she started working in 2000 even before our marriage. I made her put into her 401k(max out most of the time), we also put into esop. Together we have 300k in investment assests in 401k. Then I started a brokerage account and put 1500 every month, that accumualted to 150k now.
I brought house early, as soon as I am out of PT, with in first year of H-1, it didn't appreciate much but I still have an equity of 200k in primary house(I took 15 year mortgage) and I brought another house, that I rent out which as an equity of 50k. I have some cash. I brought couple of plots in india and also constructing an house in my native town in India.
But i want to do something else, I am happy with my life, for last two years, I got into golf, tennis and exercise, trying to be physically fit. I used to worry about GC before, not any more, whatever happens will happen.
Except that I am not progressing ahead in my carreer, I want to do MBA and get into something else. Right now most of my money goes to day care for two of my kids around 24,000.
More than money, you have to develop right habits, be healthy and have positive attitude.
In my case, Secrets of my lifestyle are
1. Getting started early, buying an house at 26. STarting 401k early.
2. Marrying a girl, who is already working.
3. Maxing my 401k and esop plan.
Marrying a girl , who is already working??????????????
If we are at this level of compromise, marry a millionaire's only daughter or a multi-millionaire's daughter (any number of kids) ;-) I'm sure you will find many.
or mary a citizen.
genscn
08-22 03:57 PM
will USCIS only issue EAD after I-140 gets approved in case where I-140 is pending during I-485 filing?


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